Legislature(2001 - 2002)

02/27/2001 01:40 PM House L&C

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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
                         JOINT MEETING                                                                                        
           HOUSE LABOR & COMMERCE STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                          
           SENATE LABOR & COMMERCE STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                         
                       February 27, 2001                                                                                        
                           1:40 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Lisa Murkowski, Chair                                                                                            
Representative Kevin Meyer                                                                                                      
Representative Pete Kott                                                                                                        
Representative Harry Crawford                                                                                                   
Representative Joe Hayes                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Andrew Halcro, Vice Chair                                                                                        
Representative Norman Rokeberg                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATE MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Randy Phillips, Chair                                                                                                   
Senator Alan Austerman                                                                                                          
Senator Loren Leman                                                                                                             
Senator Bettye Davis                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATE MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator John Torgerson                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                              
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
CONFIRMATION HEARINGS                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
State Board of Registration for Architects, Engineers and Land                                                                
Surveyors                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Daphne E. Brown - Anchorage                                                                                                
     Patrick H. Kalen - Fairbanks                                                                                               
     Robert E. Miller - Anchorage                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATIONS ADVANCED                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Board of Veterinary Examiners                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     William (Bill) McDonald - Fairbanks                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATION ADVANCED                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Alaska State Board of Public Accountancy                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Kathleen B. Shreiber - Eagle River                                                                                         
     Linda C. Thomas - Juneau                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATIONS ADVANCED                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Board of Barbers & Hairdressers                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Darae Crews - Anchorage                                                                                                    
     Sheryl L. Sutton - Juneau                                                                                                  
     Larry Allen Ungerecht - Anchorage                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATIONS ADVANCED                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Alaska Labor Relations Agency                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Richard D. Brickley - Fairbanks                                                                                            
     Aaron T. Isaacs - Klawock                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATIONS ADVANCED                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Board of Marine Pilots                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Anthony (Tony) J. Joslyn - Anchor Point                                                                                    
     Jeffrey L. Thompson - Anchorage                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATIONS ADVANCED                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Occupational Safety & Health Review Board                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Cliff Davidson - Kodiak                                                                                                    
     Carla L. Meek - Juneau                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATIONS ADVANCED                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Board of Certified Real Estate Appraisers                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     James A. Hage - Fairbanks                                                                                                  
     Stephen F. Turner - Anchorage                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATIONS ADVANCED                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Real Estate Commission                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Clarence Bolden - Anchorage                                                                                                
     Gail Dossman - Anchorage                                                                                                   
     Lottie M. Michael - Anchorage                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATIONS ADVANCED                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Regulatory Commission of Alaska                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     James S. Strandberg - Anchorage                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATION ADVANCED                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Alaska Workers Compensation Board                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     John A. Abshire - Wasilla                                                                                                  
     Valerie K. Baffone - Anchorage                                                                                             
     Richard H. Behrends - Juneau                                                                                               
     John Giuchici - Fairbanks                                                                                                  
     Stephen T. Hagedorn - Anchorage                                                                                            
     Andrew (Bear) J. Piekarski - Eagle River                                                                                   
     Marc D. Stemp - Bethel                                                                                                     
     Robin E. Ward - Anchorage                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATIONS ADVANCED                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS ACTION                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                              
No previous action to record.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
AMY ERICKSON, Staff                                                                                                             
to Representative Lisa Murkowski                                                                                                
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Capitol Building, Room 408                                                                                                      
Juneau, Alaska 99801                                                                                                            
POSITION STATEMENT:  Clarified information about Mr. Robert                                                                     
Miller's qualifications.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
TAPE 01-25, SIDE A                                                                                                              
[Tape counter numbers reflect time in real minutes]                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR RANDY  PHILLIPS called the  joint meeting of the  House and                                                               
Senate Labor  and Commerce Standing  Committees to order  at 1:40                                                               
p.m.   Senate  members  present  at the  call  to order  included                                                               
Phillips, Austerman, Leman, and Davis.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Number 00.5                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LISA MURKOWSKI announced that  House members present at the                                                               
call  to order  included  Representatives  Murkowski, Meyer,  and                                                               
Crawford.  Representatives  Kott and Hayes joined  the meeting as                                                               
it was in progress.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CONFIRMATION HEARINGS                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Brought before  the committees were nominations  of appointees to                                                               
several state boards and commissions.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR PHILLIPS asked  Senate members to hold  any objections they                                                               
may have regarding nominees until the hearing on March 1st.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
State Board  of Registration for  Architects, Engineers  and Land                                                             
Surveyors                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
[Although the confirmations  of Daphne E. Brown  of Anchorage and                                                               
Patrick  H. Kalen  of  Fairbanks were  before  the committee,  no                                                               
discussion  ensued.   The  confirmation of  Robert  E. Miller  of                                                               
Anchorage  was  also  before the  committee,  and  the  following                                                               
discussion ensued.]                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MURKOWSKI said she had  a question about Mr. Robert Miller,                                                               
proposed  for confirmation  for the  State Board  of Registration                                                               
for  Architects, Engineers  and  Land Surveyors.   She  explained                                                               
that [to qualify]  to be the civil engineer member  on the board,                                                               
one needs  five years'  practical experience in  the field.   She                                                               
pointed out  that Mr. Miller  was very qualified in  the teaching                                                               
area,  but  it  appeared  that   he  only  had  three  years  [of                                                               
experience] as an  actual engineer.  She  asked for clarification                                                               
in this area.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 02.2                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
AMY  ERICKSON, Staff  to  Representative  Lisa Murkowski,  Alaska                                                               
State  Legislature,  responded  that  Mr.  Miller's  teaching  in                                                               
advanced   engineering   education    is   considered   practical                                                               
experience and is sufficient to meet the qualifications.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Board of Veterinary Examiners                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
[The  following   discussion  ensued  regarding   William  (Bill)                                                               
McDonald of Fairbanks.]                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 02.6                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MURKOWSKI  pointed  out   that  Mr.  McDonald's  biography                                                               
contained nothing  that would  indicate how long  he had  been in                                                               
Alaska.  She  said it indicates that he was  the commander of the                                                               
354th Logistics Group  at Eielson Air Force Base.   Although [his                                                               
biography] doesn't say  if he is still in Alaska,  she assumes he                                                               
is.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Number 3.1                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR LEMAN  remarked that  Mr. Miller is  probably one  of the                                                               
best people  one could  have on the  State Board  of Registration                                                               
for Architects,  Engineers and Land  Surveyors.  He  relayed that                                                               
Mr. Miller  was not available  today [to testify].   He explained                                                               
that Mr. Miller is a  registered civil engineer who complies with                                                               
the statute and meets the qualifications.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 4.2                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR PHILLIPS mentioned that he  had the same two questions that                                                               
Chair  Murkowski had.    He asked  Senator Leman  if  it was  his                                                               
opinion that Mr. Miller is qualified.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR LEMAN indicated an affirmative answer.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Number 05.3                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR PHILLIPS pointed out that it  is difficult, just based on a                                                               
his resume,  to determine whether  Mr. McDonald is a  resident of                                                               
Alaska  and  [to  understand]  what he's  been  doing  since  his                                                               
retirement.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MURKOWSKI said  nothing in his biography  would indicate he                                                               
is in Alaska.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 06.1                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR LEMAN remarked that he  finds himself in an uncomfortable                                                               
position defending the governor's  nominees.  However, when there                                                               
is someone  who is unusually  talented, he  said he would  do so.                                                               
He noted  that in  addition to having  served [in  the military],                                                               
Mr. McDonald's  wife is  the existing  executive director  of the                                                               
Fairbanks Board of Realtors.  He  said it is highly unlikely that                                                               
(indisc.).                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 07.4                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MURKOWSKI noted  that to this point, there  hadn't been any                                                               
objections to the nominees.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Alaska State Board of Public Accountancy                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
[Although  the confirmations  of  Kathleen B.  Shreiber of  Eagle                                                               
River and  Linda C. Thomas  of Juneau were before  the committee,                                                               
no discussion ensued.]                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Board of Barbers & Hairdressers                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
[Although the confirmations  of Darae Crews of  Anchorage, Sheryl                                                               
L. Sutton of Juneau, and  Larry Allen Ungerecht of Anchorage were                                                               
before  the committee,  no discussion  ensued.   Discussion about                                                               
the recently added  Body Piercer and Tattooist seat  and of Larry                                                               
Allen  Ungerecht  of  Anchorage  took  place  under  Number  11.0                                                               
below.]                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Alaska Labor Relations Agency                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
[Although the  confirmations of Richard D.  Brickley of Fairbanks                                                               
and  Aaron T.  Isaacs of  Klawock were  before the  committee, no                                                               
discussion ensued.]                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Board of Marine Pilots                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
[Although  the  confirmations  of  Anthony (Tony)  J.  Joslyn  of                                                               
Anchor Point  and Jeffrey  L. Thompson  of Anchorage  were before                                                               
the committee, no discussion ensued.]                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Occupational Safety & Health Review Board                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
[Although  the  confirmations of  Cliff  Davidson  of Kodiak  and                                                               
Carla L. Meek of Juneau  were before the committee, no discussion                                                               
ensued.]                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Board of Certified Real Estate Appraisers                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
[Although the  confirmations of  James A.  Hage of  Fairbanks and                                                               
Stephen  F. Turner  of Anchorage  were before  the committee,  no                                                               
discussion ensued.]                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Real Estate Commission                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
[Although  the confirmations  of  Clarence  Bolden of  Anchorage,                                                               
Gail Dossman  of Anchorage,  and Lottie  M. Michael  of Anchorage                                                               
were before the committee, no discussion ensued.]                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Regulatory Commission of Alaska                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
[Although the  confirmation of James  S. Strandberg  of Anchorage                                                               
was before the committee, no discussion ensued.]                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Alaska Workers Compensation Board                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
[Although  the  confirmations  of  John A.  Abshire  of  Wasilla,                                                               
Valerie K. Baffone  of Anchorage, Richard H.  Behrends of Juneau,                                                               
John  Giuchici of  Fairbanks, Stephen  T. Hagedorn  of Anchorage,                                                               
Andrew  (Bear) J.  Piekarski of  Eagle  River, Marc  D. Stemp  of                                                               
Bethel,  and  Robin   E.  Ward  of  Anchorage   were  before  the                                                               
committee, no discussion ensued.]                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Number 07.7                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR PHILLIPS asked for a motion from the Senate members.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 07.8                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR LEMAN  made a motion  that the Senate Labor  and Commerce                                                               
Standing  Committee   advance  a   letter  to  the   full  Senate                                                               
indicating that the nominees'  qualifications have been reviewed.                                                               
Members  would  sign the  letter  indicating  their intention  to                                                               
vote.  There being no objection, it was so ordered.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Number 08.6                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MURKOWSKI  asked for  a similar motion  but noted  that the                                                               
committee was  not sending forward  a single letter, as  has been                                                               
done in  the past.   She  explained that  the committee  would be                                                               
sending forward  a specific letter for  each individual, bringing                                                               
forth the recommendation from the committee.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 08.9                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KOTT  made  a  motion for  the  House  Labor  and                                                               
Commerce Standing Committee to submit  letters on each individual                                                               
nominated  for the  various boards  and commissions  to the  full                                                               
House.   The  entire House  of Representatives  would review  the                                                               
information  and  vote either  for  or  against each  individual,                                                               
after  reviewing  his or  her  qualifications.   There  being  no                                                               
objection, it was so ordered.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 09.6                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MURKOWSKI mentioned  the  issue of  [board members']  term                                                               
expiration dates.   She said  the [current] expiration  dates are                                                               
"all  over  the board,"  and  said  a  March  1st date  has  been                                                               
requested.   She said the  termination dates would be  changed to                                                               
reflect what is in statute;  this would happen when the committee                                                               
sends forth its recommendations.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 11.0                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MEYER asked  Ms. Catherine  Reardon, Division  of                                                               
Occupational Licensing, if the Board  of Barbers and Hairdressers                                                               
is comfortable having  the Body Piercing and  Tattooist [seat] as                                                               
part of  the board.   He made a point  to mention that  Mr. Larry                                                               
Allen Ugerecht  has the [necessary] qualifications,  and has been                                                               
a tattooist for several years.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Number 11.5                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CATHERINE REARDON, Director,  Division of Occupational Licensing,                                                               
Department   of  Community   and  Economic   Development  (DCED),                                                               
responded  that   the  Board  of  Barbers   and  Hairdressers  is                                                               
ambivalent about having  this seat as part of the  board but that                                                               
it is  [now] in statute.   She said the nominee,  Mr. Larry Allen                                                               
Ungerecht,  attended the  last [board]  meeting; she  thought the                                                               
board was pleased by the quality of his input.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Number 12.1                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  REARDON  said one  of  the  board's  concerns had  been  its                                                               
limited knowledge  about tattooing  and piercing.   She  said the                                                               
board was pleased  to have an expert at the  table, which was the                                                               
purpose of  putting the seat on  the board.  She  said she didn't                                                               
think  the board  was ambivalent  about  having the  seat on  the                                                               
board, but rather about regulating  those professions.  Since the                                                               
board is  regulating these  groups, she  thought the  board liked                                                               
having  someone at  the  table  who knows  what  is being  talked                                                               
about.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Number 12.6                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MEYER said it looked as if Mr. Ungerecht had been                                                                
on the board since the end of last year, and asked if he had                                                                    
been coming to the meetings.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 12.7                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. REARDON replied that there had only been one meeting since                                                                  
he was appointed, and he attended.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 13.0                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
There being no further business before the committees, the joint                                                                
meeting of the House and Senate Labor and Commerce Standing                                                                     
Committees was adjourned at 1:55 p.m.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

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